نص حلقة: Khloé Kardashian on the 3 Years She Was Too Ashamed to Leave Her House
Jay Shetty Podcast2026-09-15
Khloé Kardashian on the 3 Years She Was Too Ashamed to Leave Her House
Overview
Topic: Self-Improvement
Khloé Kardashian joins Jay Shetty to discuss her journey of self-reflection, overcoming public shame, and finding peace as she enters her 40s. She shares personal stories about her relationships with Lamar Odom and Tristan Thompson, her approach to parenting, and how she uses writing and faith to navigate life's challenges.
Minute by Minute (60)
[00:00 - 01:00] Excitement for the 40s
Khloé Kardashian discusses her excitement about turning 40, contrasting it with her challenging 30s.
[01:00 - 02:00] Societal Pressures in the 30s
Khloé reflects on the societal pressures women face in their 30s regarding marriage and children.
[02:00 - 03:00] Moving Past Difficult Times
Khloé talks about her past relationships and career struggles in her 30s, and how she wanted to move past them.
[03:00 - 04:00] Expectations vs. Reality
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss the pressure of expectations in one's 20s and 30s.
[04:00 - 05:00] Life Lessons and Changing Minds
Khloé shares her perspective on college, changing one's mind in life, and the arrogance of youth.
[05:00 - 06:00] Advice for Navigating Pressure
Jay Shetty asks Khloé for advice for young women facing societal and parental pressures.
[06:00 - 07:00] Comparison and Social Media
Khloé emphasizes that comparison is the thief of joy and discusses the impact of social media.
[07:00 - 08:00] Teaching the Next Generation
Khloé talks about her nieces and nephews, teaching them about not always getting what others have.
[08:00 - 09:00] Motivation vs. Envy
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss how studying someone's success can be motivating, whereas envying it is demotivating.
[09:00 - 10:00] Acknowledging Setbacks
Khloé reflects on her siblings' struggles and failures, noting that everyone has setbacks.
[10:00 - 11:00] Happiness is a Choice
Khloé shares the biggest lesson she is taking into her 40s: that happiness is a choice.
[11:00 - 12:00] Overcoming the Dark Cloud
Khloé discusses how she overcame the dark cloud of her 30s by choosing to be happy and ignoring the noise.
[12:00 - 13:00] Shedding Past Burdens
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss shedding the burdens of the past and becoming more self-aware.
[13:00 - 14:00] Dating History and Public Shame
Khloé talks about her past dating history, dealing with public shame, and learning from mistakes.
[14:00 - 15:00] Dealing with Repeated Mistakes
Khloé reflects on her relationship with Lamar Odom and the shame she felt when things went wrong repeatedly.
[15:00 - 16:00] Courage to Move On
Jay Shetty commends Khloé's courage to move on from things that no longer serve her.
[16:00 - 17:00] Patience and Personal Timelines
Khloé discusses the importance of being patient with oneself and learning on one's own timeline.
[17:00 - 18:00] The Struggle of Self-Forgiveness
Khloé talks about her struggle to forgive herself and how she is her own biggest critic.
[18:00 - 19:00] Working on Forgiveness
Khloé shares how she has worked on forgiving herself over the last three years.
[19:00 - 20:00] Finding Peace Through Faith
Khloé discusses her relationship with God and how prayer helps her find peace and gratitude.
[20:00 - 21:00] Setting Boundaries
Khloé talks about setting boundaries and releasing burdens that are not hers to carry.
[21:00 - 22:00] Avoiding Self-Blame
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss how people often blame themselves for everything and forget other factors.
[22:00 - 23:00] Writing as Therapy
Khloé explains how she uses writing as a form of therapy to release energy and thoughts.
[23:00 - 24:00] Deciding on Traditional Therapy
Jay Shetty asks Khloé about her decision to seek traditional therapy.
[24:00 - 25:00] Finding the Right Therapist
Khloé shares how her sister Kim recommended a therapist, and how she found it helpful.
[25:00 - 26:00] Building Trust in Therapy
Khloé describes her therapist's approach and how she built trust with her.
[26:00 - 27:00] The Challenge of Opening Up
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss the challenge of opening up to a therapist after trust has been broken.
[27:00 - 28:00] Turning Off Emotions
Khloé explains how she used to turn off her emotions when speaking to her therapist.
[28:00 - 29:00] Documenting Traumas
Khloé talks about writing down her traumas as a homework assignment from her therapist.
[29:00 - 30:00] Realizing Emotional Numbness
Khloé discusses how her therapist helped her realize she was numb to many things.
[30:00 - 31:00] Embracing Sadness and Grief
Khloé reflects on the importance of feeling sadness and grief as expressions of love.
[31:00 - 32:00] Humor as a Defense Mechanism
Khloé talks about using humor as a defense mechanism in dark situations.
[32:00 - 33:00] Being the Rock for Others
Jay Shetty highlights Khloé's role as a rock for her family, children, and ex-partners.
[33:00 - 34:00] Maternal Instincts and Worthiness
Khloé discusses her maternal nature and her need to take care of others to feel worthy of love.
[34:00 - 35:00] Childhood Comparisons
Khloé reflects on being compared to her siblings growing up and how it shaped her desire to protect children.
[35:00 - 36:00] Growing Up in a Large Family
Khloé talks about growing up in a large family with step-siblings and wanting everyone to feel seen.
[36:00 - 37:00] Boundaries and Love
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss how boundaries protect one's ability to love.
[37:00 - 38:00] Belief in Love and Marriage
Khloé expresses her continued belief in love and marriage despite her past.
[38:00 - 39:00] Joy and Self-Control
Khloé talks about how she is more joyful with love now because she has more self-control.
[39:00 - 40:00] The Joy of Giving Love
Jay Shetty and Khloé discuss the joy of giving love versus receiving it.
[40:00 - 41:00] Thoughtful Gift-Giving
Khloé shares her love for giving thoughtful gifts and making others happy.
[41:00 - 42:00] Reconnecting with Lamar Odom
Jay Shetty asks Khloé about her recent reunion with Lamar Odom on her show.
[42:00 - 43:00] Reunion After Ten Years
Khloé explains how she and Lamar reconnected after nearly ten years of no contact.
[43:00 - 44:00] Keeping Lamar's Belongings
Khloé describes her decision to keep Lamar's belongings in storage for years in case he wanted them.
[44:00 - 45:00] A Heartbreaking Discovery
Khloé shares the heartbreaking discovery that Lamar's friend had sold his belongings without his knowledge.
[45:00 - 46:00] Finding Sentimental Items
Khloé talks about finding Lamar's Sixth Man of the Year trophy and other sentimental items in her attic.
[46:00 - 47:00] Arranging a Private Meeting
Khloé explains how she arranged to meet Lamar privately to return his items and check on him.
[47:00 - 48:00] Realizing Personal Growth
Khloé reflects on the emotional impact of seeing Lamar again and realizing how much she had outgrown him.
[48:00 - 49:00] Cutting Ties for Well-Being
Khloé discusses her decision to cut ties with Lamar after his relapse, despite her love for him.
[49:00 - 50:00] Prioritizing Self-Care
Khloé emphasizes that she had to prioritize her own well-being over taking care of Lamar.
[50:00 - 51:00] Helping Tristan and Amari
Khloé talks about her decision to help Tristan Thompson and his brother Amari after their mother's passing.
[51:00 - 52:00] Inviting Them to Move In
Khloé explains why she invited Tristan and Amari to move in with her during a difficult time.
[52:00 - 53:00] Strength in Putting Others First
Khloé defends her actions, stating that putting her feelings aside for the betterment of others takes strength.
[53:00 - 54:00] Compassion as a Superpower
Jay Shetty commends Khloé's compassion and empathy, noting that it is a superpower.
[54:00 - 55:00] Managing Technology Exposure
Khloé discusses how she manages her children's exposure to social media and technology.
[55:00 - 56:00] Rules for iPad and Phone Usage
Khloé shares her rules for her daughter True's iPad and phone usage.
[56:00 - 57:00] Protecting Kids from Social Media
Khloé explains why she wants to protect her children from the damaging effects of social media.
[57:00 - 58:00] Being Present with Children
Khloé talks about her desire to be present with her children and build a strong connection.
[58:00 - 59:00] Love and Faith as Foundations
Khloé emphasizes that love and faith are the foundation of her household.
[59:00 - 60:00] Conclusion and Mutual Respect
Jay Shetty and Khloé conclude the interview, expressing mutual appreciation and respect.
Broadcaster Questions (12)
[01:31] How did you imagine your 40s were going to look when you were younger? And now that you're moving into them, how close are they, how different are those visions?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé about her expectations of turning 40 compared to her actual experience.
[05:01] What words of advice, wisdom, insight, or lessons would you share with them in that period of their life where the societal pressure, the parental pressure, the personal pressure, the pressure of what's happening all around them on Instagram, TikTok, social media... how should they think about navig
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé for advice for young women in their 30s who feel pressured about marriage and relationships.
[09:20] What's the biggest lesson you're taking into your 40s, something that you've been carrying with you into this time?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé about the most significant lesson she has learned as she enters her 40s.
[12:06] What were some of those things that came up for you when you were like, 'I think these are things that I've been holding onto that I need to shed'? What are some of those burdens?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé about the past burdens she felt she needed to let go of.
[16:21] How do you get to that?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé how she reached the point of being able to let go of past shame and guilt.
[18:09] How did you learn to forgive yourself?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé about her process of learning self-forgiveness.
[23:36] Why was traditional therapy a path that you wanted to go down and take part in, as you mentioned? Why was that something that you opened the door to?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé why she decided to start traditional therapy.
[26:51] How do you even find the courage to trust again?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé how she found the courage to trust a therapist after past betrayals of trust.
[33:36] Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé why she always takes on the role of a caretaker or 'rock' in her relationships.
[41:46] Why did you feel now was the time to reconnect, and was it you who initiated, was it him, where did that come from?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé about her recent reunion with her ex-husband Lamar Odom.
[50:59] Does it make you feel like there's more healing for you to do in regard to that relationship, like resentment, anger, or that the forgiveness that you had has kind of felt more concrete?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé if seeing Lamar again brought up any unresolved feelings or if her forgiveness felt complete.
[58:35] What do you hope as they grow up, do they learn about you and see in you? What's your hope for them to understand about their mom?
Context: Jay Shetty asks Khloé what she hopes her children understand and learn about her as they grow up.
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